Small section of Eaves trough replacement
Bruce: Your quote would appear to indicate the replacement of a majority of the eaves trough vs. a repair that just covers the extent of the damage.
We noticed that there are two damaged areas on the eaves trough- left side and front right corner which affects two sides. We have to take down the whole left side section of the eaves trough in order to replace the damaged fascia (fascia behind eaves trough) on the left side.
We never do cut and patch repairs as they will inevitably leak and cause problems later. The proper and professional way to fix this eaves trough is to extrude a new run of trough from corner to corner and connect it to the far end corner of eaves trough where it meets the main building. In other words we are replacing the whole front porch overhang eaves trough 3 sides as three sides are damaged.
Our company is professional to deal with and our tradesman has many years of experience in commercial applications similar to the Kipling community centre.
Rotten wood underneath the Fascia and Soffit, Eaves trough coming off Unless the rotten wood underneath the fascia and soffit is replaced the eaves will just keep coming off as there is nothing solid to secure the screws into.
In order to replace the wood, the eaves, fascia and soffit will have to be removed and the wood replaced. The eaves can be removed and put back in place easily but the fascia and soffit cannot as it will get all bent out of shape. We can replace the soffit and fascia with new material and secure back the eaves trough.
You will have to find a carpenter or person company who works with wood to replace the underlying rotten wood. Our crew only works with metal and are not the proper tradesman for that job.
Soffit, fascia and Eaves trough repairs
Soffit vents: We found the other round vent and screwed all three in place with adhesive and screws.
Top eaves trough gap: I put extra brackets in trough to re- tack down metal gap. Two in top and one in bottom eave over garage. It will help a bit as the areas that have had big gaps are now in closer and tighter to fascia.
The leaking between the eave and facia may not go away as the Shingles have no overhang into the trough and barely reach the trough and then the facia trim is short and the eave is lower and so there is a gap all the way along both eaves that water can leak down (it doesnít leak into house just between eaves and facia.)
The eaves trough is usually snug tight to the facia but they were poorly installed with quite a few areas that are not tight .I did put brackets in big gaps to tighten up those but there is still long areas where water can seep down . I do not think Caulking is the answer as it is a temporary solution and that area when installed properly would not need caulking. (I noticed somebody had tried to do that on back side eaves. In my opinion the solution is more major: Re-hanging the eaves and facia trim properly and tightly in those areas so water can only run into the eaves trough.
See how it goes with the adjustments I made. A little water leaking between those areas is not bad for the house as it is still on outside of the aluminum Fascia. It doesnít look good during a rain storm but most of the water is being diverted. If it becomes something you notice a lot or just bug you I can give you a quote to have them reinstalled properly.
Sorry for the long email but itís hard to explain in short.
Seamless Eaves trough Replacement Professional Consultation
I have attached a quotation regarding the eaves trough replacement and Fascia, soffit options for your review.
Your house has very uniquely designed wooden soffit features. I am not sure if you would want to cover them with Fascia.They are in good shape and you may want to paint them or leave them instead of covering them.
If going forward with the new eaves, I do advise that you put an aluminum fascia behind the eaves trough as there will be less maintenance of painting and the wood behind will stay in better shape being protected. There is paint peeling off on the fascia now. So it would have to be painted at least before we would install new eaves. The soffit underneath is an option that you can decide on as a design issue.
New eaves and fascia will alone really upgrade the aesthetic look of the house and add value to it to match the new windows.
We can match the color of the window trim if you think that would tie in nicely. You can look at your neighbours to your left (from the road) to get an idea of how an eaves, fascia, soffit makeover looks
You may get other quotes from other companies which could be lower in price but beware as workmanship on this type of installation can vary and if installed incorrectly or without attention to detail can cause leaks between the fascia and eaves.
If you choose Gutter Force we would install these professionally with care and quality workmanship that will last.
Choose the Professionals for your home improvement project Hi Darryl
Based on the measurement of your house you provided yesterday. I am enclosing a quote of the eaves trough replacement of your whole house. We would supply and install heavy gauge seamless eaves trough extruding on site. No nails on trough from cap to cap. Inside brackets to hold eaves secure to fascia. We have a wide range of aluminum material colors to match your trim color you require. We may be a bit more in price than some competitors but we provide excellent workmanship and stand behind our work. Eaves trough installations are often done for cheaper prices and poor workmanship. This can be a nightmare for a home owner with leaks between the eaves and fascia or in corners. Our crew are seasoned professionals. All they do every day is install Eaves trough, soffits and fascia. They are excellent at their specialized trade. We can provide references if needed.
In the bad wind storm of more than a week ago, our eaves trough for the back of our house separated from the house and is hanging and twisted. I am not sure if it can be repaired or needs replacement. Thanks for inquiring at Gutter Force. Once the eaves trough metal has twisted out of shape it is usually too damaged to put it back up without it becoming a problem leaking between the fascia and the eaves later. If you can measure the length of eaves and send to me I can quote to have a new piece of seamless install. You have to measure from End Cap to End Cap. ( Donít stop at corner unless it has and end cap.) If you can take a couple pictures that would help as well. But the measurement is the most important. Also if any downpipes are damaged and need to be replaced please measure them on length and size i.e. 2X3, 3X 3 or 4X3 inches.
Soffit, Fascia and Eaves trough Replacement
A question for you, the optional items on the Estimate, in your opinion do they need to be done now?
What I noticed when looking at the soffits and fascia at your home is they are a bit faded and have some white leaching in soffits vents. The problem is when you replace the eaves trough alone it will look all shiny new and the Soffits and Fascia color will look outdated and old in comparison. If you want to change the look of the house to update it and upgrade its exterior appeal then itís a good idea to do the Fascia and soffits now together with eaves in a new color. If you donít do it now then at sometime the soffits will have to be done and then itís a hassle to have to reconnect the eaves without bending them or damaging them. At that time the eaves will look old and the color maybe outdated and the other areas new.
If changed and upgraded together it will definitely enhance the overall look of the house and possibly its value in the future.
Does your company provide inspection report for Insurance claims purpose?
Yes, we will provide a detailed report after we finish the project. Here below is a sample of our report.
Job Address: XXXXXXXXXX, Mississauga, On
Problem: Water leaking in upstairs spare room at balcony due to ice dam built up on top of eaves trough
Ice damming along eaves troughs around house perimeter
Ice Dam Depth: 10 inches by 2ft up shingled roof
Length: Front and back of house 40ft approx. All ice removed from shingles and eaves troughs.
Notes: Water leaking in under shingles and sheathing in gap between gutter and shingles
Had to steam remove all ice above gutter and next to soffit backing to clear area that water was leaking into house.
Cause of Ice Dam: Excess snow from snow storms, heat loss from roof and design of roof.
Inspected by: Mark Shields
Senior Operations Manager
Thanks for the documentation. If I need anything else I will give you a call.
Things are much better now and no more leaking into the home. The weather is really cooperating these days. We are having our insulation topped up next weekend so hopefully this will not happen again.
I really appreciated your quick response!